Tom Brady is the best QB of all-time because he’s won the most games.
That’s really the conversation we are having right now? A longevity “award” that no one cared about until Brady got close to the top of the list is now the cherry on top of the argument that he is the GOAT? Seriously?
Who gives a rat’s ass about who has won the most games? That just means that you’ve been healthy enough to play for a long time, and you’ve been on a bunch of really good teams. That’s basically it.
Wins have ZERO bearing on who is the best QB of all time. We can all agree that Joe Montana should be on the short list of possible GOATs, and he has 117 career wins. That’s 13 less than Ben Roethlisberger and 18 shy of Drew Brees. Trust me I have a ton of respect for both of those players, but they will never be Joe Montana. Eli Manning will pass Montana’s win total either this season or at the start of 2017, and while he might be ELIte he’s not Montana either.
Pats fans are clamoring that win #201 put Brady over the top in the best ever race, but where was all this hoopla when Peyton Manning passed Brett Favre for the wins lead last season? I don’t recall anyone saying how important win total was last season, even though the fact that Manning had the same amount of wins on much worse teams than Brady has ever been a part of is a very impressive feat.
Manning was drafted first overall to a terrible Colts team, and for many seasons he had no defense to help push him over the top in the difficult AFC. Brady had the opposite at the start of his career, as the Pats had a potent defense that completely shut down “The Greatest Show on Turf” in their first Super Bowl win over the Rams in 2001. Brady has never been on even an average team, and that defense with Seymour, Bruschi, Vrabel, Law, McGinest, Milloy, etc. (I’m not a Pats fan and I can name more than half of their defensive players from the early 2000s) guided that team to those first three titles. Hell, in seven of Brady’s first nine playoff games, he threw for less than 240 yards and threw for less than two TDs in six of those games. He managed the offense while the defense slowed down solid teams. That was the formula for success in the early stages of his career. Yes he had a big game against the Panthers in 2003 (32/48, 354, 3 TD, 1 INT), but come on he had 145 yards against an okay Rams defense in that first game, and 115 before getting hurt in the AFC title game against Pittsburgh that season.
If you play for 16 years and are on 16 good/great teams, then you should be first overall in wins. But that doesn’t mean you’re the best ever. That’s like looking at amount of hits to judge best baseball players. Hits are a longevity stat as well, and if you don’t believe it look at Craig Biggio’s stats. His hit total got him in the Hall of Fame, but it doesn’t place him anywhere near the top of the list of greatest baseball players.
I’m not saying Brady isn’t in the conversation, but I just think it’s pretty ridiculous and preposterous to use a number like total wins to determine who’s the best. And by the way, Adam Vinatieri has more wins than Brady does… which must mean he’s a better player than Tommy Boy right?
(By the way, can we discuss the “story” that Brady is still waiting to hear from commissioner Goodell to congratulate him on the wins record? Again, are you fans really serious with this stuff? How is that a relevant story? Who cares if the commish calls Brady to tell him how awesome it is to hold a record that wasn’t important until the so-called GOAT got to the top spot? And why would he call Brady, it’s not like they are friends or anything close to that. I mean he did suspend Brady for cheating – which is why he should be called the cheetah instead of the goat. You don’t argue with someone at work for two years, suspend them for a quarter of the year, and then tell them “oh by the way great job wanna get drinks and hang out?” Do you really have nothing else to worry about then whether your QB gets a phone call? And does the media really not have anything else to write about? Pathetic.)
I’m sure that statement will have Pats’ fans up in arms, just like when I posted on Facebook on Monday night regarding that same Jets team that the Pats squeaked by one week ago. That Jets squad got absolutely embarrassed on Monday, and I compared that epic five-point win to the 41-3 beatdown that the Colts were putting on that same team eight days later.
Boy that ruffled some feathers.
The Jets always play the Pats well. Divisional games are a different animal. They try harder against their rivals. You spend more time thinking about the Pats than you do with your own team. You hate us because you ain’t us.
That was the list of excuses/responses to a simple statement. How did the great Pats struggle with a team that got blasted at home by a mediocre Colts team? I still haven’t gotten an intelligent answer… which isn’t a big surprise.
The Jets sucked before the Pats game. They sucked during the Pats game. And they clearly sucked after the Pats game. And I get that some teams match up better with others, but what in the world does a 3-9 team do well enough that they can be ahead of the Pats in the fourth quarter but get absolutely annihilated by the Colts?
Let’s just call a spade a spade… the Pats haven’t played well since the Seattle game. They didn’t play well against the Jets, they didn’t look good until late against the 49ers, and they didn’t have to really try against the Rams last week. That was a real murderer’s row of opponents, with that stellar 8-28 combined record.
If someone would just say that when I ask how the Jets almost beat y’all then I’d be totally satisfied. That’s what I say when my team loses four games in a row. We played poorly. If you ask me how my team only beat the Texans by eight points last week at home, I’ll say that it’s because we didn’t play well, made some costly mistakes, that it should have been 28-7 at least if we didn’t screw up, that we’re not a very good team right now, the weather was an issue (but it was for both teams), and that the Texans defense played better than expected in those snowy conditions. There’s no “why are you so concerned with my team”, no “it was a bad matchup”, no “well we didn’t have our other best offensive player because he gets hurt every year but still gets a pass because he’s so funny and such a partier and because we love him and he’s the goat of his position too”.
Yep I had to bring Gronk’s injury into this. You can’t be that surprised that he’s hurt. At this point it would be a bigger shock if he could actually make it through an entire season without missing some time. This season just seemed to be one injury after another, with the last one ending his season. There is some serious doubt that he will ever regain the form that made him undoubtedly the best tight end in the game, because in reality how many surgeries can one person have without having their abilities go into a deep decline?
Obviously, as a Pats hater, I am not a fan of Gronk. I really hate him off the field, and I think that his shtick is so overplayed, immature, and just stupid that I can’t believe the fans just eat it up. If he was on any other team everyone would absolutely kill him for acting like a child, and I’ve never understood why he always got a pass from the organization and the coach yet other guys like Wes Welker got punished for having a sense of humor. So it’s okay to party during rehab and perform wrestling moves on a forearm that’s had multiple surgeries on it, but it’s unacceptable to make one hilarious joke about the foot fetish of a rival coach?
These guys are professionals, and they are supposed to act like pros on and off the field. Gronk acts like a teenager who just went through puberty and has his hormones flying all over the place, and sounds like he’s a two-year-old just learning how to use the English language, and yet everyone loves him? Yeah no I’ll pass.
There’s no denying his talent on the field, but he’s not in the class of guys like Tony Gonzalez or Shannon Sharpe or Antonio Gates or even Jason Witten, especially if he can’t stay on the field. Those guys revolutionized the position, making it possible for a freak athlete like Gronk to become a tight end. They had lengthy careers, set records, and were the best at their position from the start of their career to the end. To me, Gonzalez is the best tight end I’ve ever seen (and actually one of the best players period), and Gronk has a ways to go to get in that conversation. I think it’s going to be a lot harder if he’s missing extended time every season with another injury, and I’ve heard a lot of chatter about whether or not he will finish his contract with the Patriots, especially since they seem to be making locking up Martellus Bennett a priority. Even without a solid replacement, there’s still a good chance that the Pats could just pull a Jamie Collins and just cut Gronk out of the blue at some point, replacing him with an unknown guy who they will say they love, and then all the stories and rumors will come out about how awful of a locker room guy he is and how no one liked him and how he acted like a child and they had enough of his act… you know kinda like they did with Collins. But yeah he had no reason to send some shady posts talking about how he’s glad he’s not where he was…
Oh and by the way… Let’s Go Ravens!